I had a SU700 briefly a couple of years ago but I sold it off because I didn’t really understand the workflow. It had been described to me as a hardware version of Acid but that description is not particularly accurate. I’ve been on a music kick lately though and came across this sampler again in my research. I decided to buy another one and give it another shot.
I found this particular SU700 on eBay for $50. It was in pretty bad shape. All of the knobs were missing and most of the encoders were shot. Someone had long since given up on this poor sampler. It was sold to a pawn shop, then I think they sold it and it was likely brought back to them because it was defective. I’m still curious when the knobs disappeared though.
Finding new drop in replacement encoders is difficult and expensive so I researched for some alternatives. I ran across this page http://www.albates.com/yamaha-su700-encoder-repair-and-replacement/. He lists 3 recommended alternatives. I ended up going with the EC12E24404A8. I had to bend the leads straight out and wire up small jumper wires on each encoder to make it work but I’ve been very pleased with the result.
Next, now that it was working again, it was time for some new knobs. They were all missing. At first I printed some generic black knobs I found on thingiverse but they fit kind of loose for my taste and they weren’t quite what I was looking for. I ended up designing my own from scratch. What you see in the pictures is the 7th revision on the small knobs and the 2nd revision on the larger knobs on the two volume controls.
Here’s a link to the small SU700 knobs https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:1626229
Here’s a link to the larger volume knobs https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:1627286
Aside from the knobs, there was one of the matrix button covers missing. Someone on eBay is selling one for $9 +$7 shipping. This seemed a bit steep to me so I designed my own. It three revisions to get it right. It’s not rounded on top like the stock ones but it does the same job and looks close enough for me.
Here’s a link to the matrix button cap https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:1627287
Finally, it was time for a SCSI board. The floppies work fine but in the end swapping 5-6 floppies for a song is tedious. SCSI boards are uncommonly found on eBay and they are usually $150. I found an A3000 sampler on Shopgoodwill and managed to get it for $95. All A3000’s (unless it’s already been pilfered) have the exact SCSI board that is required for the SU700. I pulled it out and then put the sampler on eBay for $100.
I did not want an external SCSI drive that would be loud, large, and require a separate power supply so I ended up building an SD2SCSI card for it. I was very pleased when I was first able to format the card. I put 2 partitions of 1gb each on a 4gb microSD card. Even one of these partitions should last for ages.
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Thanks for this Geordy, it was very informative! Am I right in thinking that the Yamaha A3000 also has the exact same I/O board as the extension for the SU700? So I could essentially buy an A3000 and transfer the ASIB1 and AIEB1 to a SU700?
Yes, this is correct. In fact that is how I’ve obtained all of the SCSI boards I have ever put in my SU700’s. Unfortunately I’ve never ran across an A3000 with the output board. Hoping I can get my hands on one soon here myself but greedBay sellers all seem to want $300 lately.
Thanks for the reply. Yeah I love my SU700, have the SCSI board but the output board will have to wait for another day.
Is installing the SCSI2SD difficult? I can solder fine but I’ve never done anything involving SCSI before and am a bit concerned about it.
The SCSI2SD is a snap to install. No soldering required if you buy one that is already built. SCSI just needs to be terminated at both ends with the proper resistors. If you look at your SCSI card, you should see them already on there. They are black and in between the internal and external SCSI connector. http://www.deepsonic.ch/deep/pix_equipment/yamaha_asib1_02.jpg SCSI is really no big deal to work with. In it’s day, it was the premium interface. It allowed up to 7 devices per chain if as long as you set the ID jumpers correctly and the drives were typically more reliable. It really makes a huge difference in how useful the SU700 is.
Cheers Geordy, I really appreciate the help. Still a bit confused but I think I’m going to have to just buy the SCSI2SD and it will hopefully make more sense. I’m guessing I will need a mounting bracket for it, will I also need an IDE cable and a molex power connector?
Hello, i had like to know the price of yamaha scsi asib 1 interface for sampler yamaha su 700.
thank you. best regards
M. Omid from Frankfurt Germany
Usually you can get these off eBay for about $150.
hey a question, pretty sure u can’t but curious to ask it too
can u see those sd partition on mac/pc? from what i know only the floppy is readable, otherwise is a strange format unreadable from mac/pc (or at least not in a way to transfer sample but just to make an image)
thanks
I think you can read it on a PC but I never tried it. I’m pretty sure you could use rawrite or dd to make an image at the very least.